coopsgirl Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I don't care if they colorize movies as long as you can still buy the original b+w, but I would not buy the colorized versions until they look better. Even then you would probably still lose the original look of the film since some effects like I mentioned in another post (shadows and lighting) do not look the same in color. I think three strip Technicolor is beautiful, I mean look at a movie like *Unconquered* with it's bright colored costumes, all the colors really pop off the screen. Some people might find it garrish but then you have other films like *For Whom the Bell Tolls* with more muted, natural colors and it's a beautiful film too. I would pay pretty much anything for more releases of Gary's movies, but this is coming from someone who spent around $60 for a vintage *Pride of the Yankees* movie still :x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 HI Dan---thanks for the link. I am very glad that the lower priced dvd is available because I do think the Criterion collector's discs are only for saps like me who have to have all of the "extras" that sometimes come with them, in the case of My Man Godfrey (and Young Mr Lincoln, which I also own), there were lots of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsgirl Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 I was watching *Only the Brave* last night and it always gets me tickled how in Gary's first scene he's trying to do a southern accent but it's just not quite working . It only lasts for a few minutes and thankfully he just goes back to his regular accent which works fine. It makes me think of one of my fave episodes of *Mystery Science Theater* where they're making fun of a movie called *Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell*. It's a terrible movie set in Medieval England and the main character (who is one of the most unlikeable 'heroes' ever) and another guy are fighting and they start off trying to do English accents and one of the guys who makes fun of the movies says 'I wonder how long these accents will last?'. Well they didn't even make it all the way through that scene with them and it makes me think of Gary's 'southern accent' that doesn't last very long either. It's funny though b/c Mary Brian does one through the whole movie and it's actually pretty good. She lays it on a little thick in the beginning but then it kinda evens out. I know it bugs some people when actors don't do appropriate accents for their parts but I would rather hear no accent than a bad one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkraven Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 I'm not a terribly big fan of Gary Cooper. but i love ALICE COOPER! http://re3.mm-a7.yimg.com/image/3905287681 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Best & Worst Accents can make for an interesting thread all its own! Vivien Leigh probably did the best imaginable job with a southern accent in Wind and Streetcar, but I learned there is a logical reason for this. Apparently, the regional southern accents are largely Anglo-derived, since so many settlers from different parts of England (and Ireland) settled in the southern states. (Angie, you probably know more than me about this) I've noticed, too, that Australians are pretty good at doing American accents, whereas not many Americans can do the reverse. I've always thought the actors of the classic era who were convincing as Anglo-Europeans, by demeanor if not by accent, were William Powell, Robert Montgomery, Orson Welles, Walter Pidgeon and Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. Gary had that quasi-western accent that made him believable in any character from west of the Mississippi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterscotchgreer Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 i agree april, i think you should start that thread. heehee! and that was a great list, they were all convincing as anglo-europeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 I'm not sure if I should start yet another thread, I'm already "board hog" numero uno around here! "Oink!" "Oink!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterscotchgreer Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 angie will love that pic of miss piggy!!! heehee! it is to cute!!! she loves little miss piggy. oh i dont hink anybody minds april we all love you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterscotchgreer Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 angie will love that pic of miss piggy!!! heehee! it is to cute!!! she loves little miss piggy. oh i dont think anybody minds april we all love you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 I like Miss Piggy, too---she's one tough blonde! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterscotchgreer Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 i used to watch her all the time when i was smaller and always thought she was one fiesty little muppet. heehee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsgirl Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Yes I do love the Piggy pics! She's been my fave Muppet since I was 2. Here's old Piggy like she looked when I was a kid. This is my fave Piggy look. That's interesting about why English people can do Southern accents. I didn't know that a lot of English people settled in the South. Both of my sides of the family have English (and some German) backgrounds though. Originally members of my dad's side settled around Indiana. Then one of my ancestors moved to Texas in the early 1830s when they were basically giving away land in an effort to get more people to settle here. It is strange how Gary's accent can fit just about any part of the country. Obvsiously it's perfect for any type of Western, but he also was convincing as a Southerner and especially as a Texan. If I didn't know he was from Montana I would guess he was from Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsgirl Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 *I'm not a terribly big fan of Gary Cooper. but i love ALICE COOPER!* That's funny b/c Gary's mother was also Alice Cooper. That's her second from the right. She doesn't look anything like the singer though - ha! Also his dad is standing next to his mom and right behind Gary (age 8) who looks way to cute in his big hat and overalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsgirl Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Here's a pic of Gary in ad from '56 for a movie camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 I just had to "celebrate" passing the 6,000 mark with My Man Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsgirl Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Congrats on the 6,000th posts, and what a beautiful pic of Gary!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterscotchgreer Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 congrats april!!!! i finally got into this thread, i was getting flustrated again. heehee! yay for april!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Thanks Angie, Theresa. I found a yummy one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsgirl Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Oh my, that one is definitely a keeper!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I watched *The Naked Edge* last night and it was almost as frustrating this time as it was the first go around about a year ago. My one and only real problem with the movie, and it's an important one, is Deborah Kerr's character. I cannot for the life of me understand why she suspects her husband after so many years, of commiting murder. Was it just because of a pitiful letter, received years after it was posted, which was an obvious black-mail attempt? All of a sudden she drops the years of living with him and knowing him better than anyone because of a letter. Now he's a stranger to her and has to work his behind off to "prove" he's innocent. It drove me crazy. I wanted him to kick her to the curb so badly, and get a younger wife. She just wasn't worth all that drama. This in no way is a reflection of my feelings about Deborah Kerr, I think she's a wonderful actress and it's probably a testament to her skills that she made me dislike her character so intensely. I cannot help but contrast this story to Hitchcock's Suspicion, another instance of a wife doubting her husband's innocence. It's plausible that a newlywed bride, who scarcely got to know her groom in a whirlwind courtship might worry over his subsequent suspicious actions. But Gary didn't do anything all through the years they were married except get rich in the stock market and put furs on his wife's back. Oh! Wait, he did do one highly suspicious thing: he broke out in a sweat during the trial. Well, I guess some men have been hanged for less. Hermione Gingold was delightful, as always, though I am still not sure what purpose her character served. I may have to watch it again. The cinematography was exciting and expressionistic, but the music in places was a bit overwrought. As for Gary, he was splendid and one's heart aches to think that just as his acting prowess was reaching a new threshold, he was falling fatally ill. It's not easy finding quality stills from this movie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsgirl Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I get mad at Deborah too for suspecting him but to tell ya the truth, I thought he might be the killer as well. I know, I know it's terrible!! (hangs head in shame). Seriously though he did such a good job of seeming kinda shady that just when I was nearly convinced it wasn't him I would change my mind and think he did it. Like when his wife wants to see the receipts and stuff from the money he raised in the stock market and he is never able to come up with them. The way he answers some of her questions he seems nervous and shifty. Not like an innocent man but one who is trying to cover guilt. When they're standing by the cliffs looking out at the water I thought he might actually try to push her over. I don't think anybody ever came off as more of a 'good guy' then Gary, so for me to think he might actually be capable of cold blooded murder shows what a fantastic job he did in that film. Of course it's something totally different for the viewer to think that as opposed to his own wife of many years like you said. It cracked me up how even though she suspects him of murder she's still sleeping with him!!!! If I thought for a second that my husband had killed somebody, I'd be out the door so fast you wouldn't even see me leave. It is hard to find pics from that one but here's a couple I just found on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Thank you for those great pictures! Yes, you're right, he did play it "on the edge" as though he were hiding something. But what I don't understand is why all of a sudden she suspects him. I think if the movie had shown her gradually noticing these things and finally coming to a grudging suspicion, then it would have been more believable. As it stands, she just out of the blue starts suspecting him on the basis of one nasty letter. Even George (Coop) sarcastically tells her: "You've been sleeping with me all these years...do you honestly think you could sleep with someone you thought was a murderer?" And she has no answer for that, just that ridiculous expression that makes me itch to slap her. My own answer to his question: Only if it's you, baby, only for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsgirl Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 *My own answer to his question: Only if it's you, baby, only for you.* Amen sister!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsGal Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Even those old women by the stairs are giggling and swooning over Gary like a bunch of giddy schoolgirls. I tell you, every woman -- at any age -- can love Gary. He's just that kind of a man. Exciting, sexy, strong and romantic -- for the young girls. And charming, dashing, sweet, courageous and handsome for the older women. Nope, there aren't any age limits on this man. I feel like doing one of those master card commercials: "Turning around for a quick glimpse of Gary Cooper once he steps into your nursing home: Two dislocated disks and a slight concussion from whiplash. Getting new denture pads because you soaked the glue right off a box of 20 after drooling over him while he fixed your broken tv set: $30. The bill for 35 elderly women staying at a hospital for fainting at the sight of his bare chest when he took his shirt off during one of the senior activities: $200. Getting a call from your only teenage granddaughter who said she'd fallen in love with Gary Cooper after seeing Mr. Deeds: Ageless. There's a lot of hot actors out there; but for the women -- old and young -- who have loved a man 70 years in the past: there's Gary Cooper." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterscotchgreer Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 oooh my goodness april...im sailing right now. heehee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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