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What always bothered me about this movie is how unrealistic parts of it was. Clearly the Cascades distinctively appear in the background rather than the Appalachians and you know these guys can't make a hunting vacation that many miles away from Pennsylvania in such a short time-frame. I know so many LOVE this film and consider it a classic, but my opinions of it resemble other Best Pics like BRAVEHEART (another fan favorite I get hit with tomatoes over) that had so much better competition against it. However we can start on a whole new topic on seemingly heterosexual "bromances" built on getting drunk and naked with this film included. We can even get into TOP GUN as well where Kelly McGillis serves as the "beard" to make sure all of the guys stay on the "straight" and narrow when they are bro-bonding. 1980s cinema is particularly interesting in the post-AIDS era when screenwriters were, again, trying to make "gay" invisible on screen like it was decades earlier but not doing all that successfully in their constant sea of boy-meets-girl romances dominating the market.

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"The Deer Hunter" follows the Hollywood screenplay tradition in which two men who are clearly in love with each other flirt over the same girl this goes back to the silent era and was a plot device well loved by Howard Hawks and other hyper macho directors. I had not seen the movie in years but caught in on cable - and I yes the geography might be wrong but the Vilmos Zsigmond's cinematography is stunning.  Robert DeNiro looks hot in this movie - and yes he does get that gratuitous naked drunk scene.  I had forgotten about the "bromance" between Mike and Nick who clearly were hanging out at "Brokeback Mountain " with Jack and Ennis ( hmm that would have bee a hot cross over gay ****)

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Oh yes... DeNiro had no shame to his game by this stage, after being in the buff and doing a bit more in Bertolucci's 1900. That film also had an intriguing bromance that went beyond the cerebral.

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 "Midway" (2019) there is plenty of brobonding  in the spectacular War World 2 epic from gay director Roland Emmerich.  Yes the men have wives and girlfriend but they mostly stay off screen because the guys have to fight the War and spend time with each other on battleships and submarines.  The cast is filled with cute young actors  like Darren Chriss and Nick Jonas.

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11 hours ago, jaragon said:

 "Midway" (2019) there is plenty of brobonding  in the spectacular War World 2 epic from gay director Roland Emmerich.  Yes the men have wives and girlfriend but they mostly stay off screen because the guys have to fight the War and spend time with each other on battleships and submarines.  The cast is filled with cute young actors  like Darren Chriss and Nick Jonas.

The preview reminds me of Pearl Harbor (2001), which took brobonding to delirious heights. But it looks like this movie also revels in the carnage the way Pearl Harbor did, turning war into a CGI-driven spectator sport. But I guess most war movies do that to some degree, which is why it's not one of my favorite genres. I like looking at cute young actors as much as the next (gay) guy, but it loses its appeal as soon as bodies start flying into the air. The last big one (Dunkirk) used Harry Styles and the tradition of using young "it" guys to pretty up war films goes way back.

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2 hours ago, DougieB said:

The preview reminds me of Pearl Harbor (2001), which took brobonding to delirious heights. But it looks like this movie also revels in the carnage the way Pearl Harbor did, turning war into a CGI-driven spectator sport. But I guess most war movies do that to some degree, which is why it's not one of my favorite genres. I like looking at cute young actors as much as the next (gay) guy, but it loses its appeal as soon as bodies start flying into the air. The last big one (Dunkirk) used Harry Styles and the tradition of using young "it" guys to pretty up war films goes way back.

The movie is rated PG -13 so the carnage is not that graphic- yes most of the cute guys die but hey war is hell. The movie does not  have a central male love story like "Pearl Harbor" but smaller encounters that if this was porn film would have led to a gay sex scene.  The film is a action picture so even the straight romance is kept to a minimum.  The gay director might have given a us a bit more but handsome Luke Evans seems gay coded to me- he has no girlfriend and is always hanging out with a cute younger officer ; )

 

 

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"Jason and the Argonauts" (1963) what is really going on between Hercules ( Nigel Green) and  Hylas (John Carrey)?  Yes I know that Hercules mentions women before they go running off to chase the goats- but he seems really heartbroken when his twink boyfriend disappears.  The gods seems to approve their bromance ; )

 

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Now this would make an interesting movie .......

After Heracles killed Theiodamas in battle, he took on Hylas as arms bearer and taught him to be a warrior, and in time the two fell in love. The poet Theocritus (about 300 BC) wrote about the love between Heracles and Hylas: "We are not the first mortals to see beauty in what is beautiful. No, even Amphitryon's bronze-hearted son, who defeated the savage Nemean lion, loved a boy—charming Hylas, whose hair hung down in curls. And like a father with a dear son he taught him all the things which had made him a mighty man, and famous."[6

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"Ford vs Ferrari" (2019) this movie is about the bromance between car builder Carroll Shelby (Matt Damon) and hot headed driver  Ken Miles ( Christian Bale).  The setting in the ultra macho world of sports car racing so there is plenty of brobonding.  Miles has a wife but she stays at home but Shelby has no female love interest on screen.  The men have a fist fight-wrestling match which really should have led to a sex scene.  If you are more into good looking men in nice suits there are plenty of those too specially Jon Berthal who plays Lee Iacocca. 

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"Ben-Hur : A Tale of the Christ"  (1925) in this spectacular silent version Ben Hur ( Ramon Novarro) and Messala (Francis X Bushman) do not have the homosexual subtext of the 1959 remake.  But there are plenty of gay touches like the unknown extra who hangs naked in the galley. Is he being punished ? Or his derriere an enticement for the slaves?  This version is a lot fun - with all the gore during the battle scene and the very campy Iras with her outrageous costumes.  The beautiful Novarro gives a star making performance. 

 

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I favor the '25 version over the '59 version because it doesn't drag despite its lengthy running time and there is a lot more heart-stopping action. Even the chariot race in the earlier film is a lot more fun. In the later version, there is one gruesome scene on the ship with some soldier getting his limb hacked off, but the former film is far more gruesome in that respect. Where else do we see a tied up guy at the front of a ship about to be bludgeoned into another ship?

That screencap image of the naked body builder seems to have been popular in many 1970s-80s publications due to possible gay "leather" interest. Of course, nobody was seriously thinking along those lines back in the '20s. You noticed a lot of naked men in paintings depicting great suffering and misfortune, so I doubt any censors were that outraged like they would had a woman been shown full frontal. (Then again, we do see some topless-ness in a Technicolor parade sequence.)

I also favor Novarro over Charlton Heston in the lead, who was still capable of a fine performance on occasion. That is, I always liked him in Planet of the Apes. In Ben-Hur '59, he is good in his suffering moments such as the gallows scenes but is way too stuffy and overly in love with himself throughout the rest of the film. One tidbit I always find amusing is that the actors who over emphasize their "heterosexuality" are often lousy at wooing women on screen. There is zero chemistry between Heston and Haya Harareet's Esther, since the only connection they share is their love of Christ in the final act. I suspect that Jack Hawkins was more Heston's favored "daddy" type over sweaty let's-bro-in-the-sauna Stephen Boyd.

Ramon was closeted so every role had to include a female co-star and he was just as good at it as Richard Chamberlain, Rock Hudson and Monty Clift. I do find him more convincing in his wooing of Dorothy Janis in The Pagan than he is with May McAvoy in Ben-Hur, but that may be due to a stronger comfort level with Janis, much like Clift with Liz Taylor and Hudson with Doris Day. OK... if we want to get really, really technical here... I think Janis and Taylor were "hot" for Novarro and Clift respectively and wouldn't have minded having his "love child" while Day viewed Hudson as her favorite brother who made her laugh.

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10 hours ago, Jlewis said:

I favor the '25 version over the '59 version because it doesn't drag despite its lengthy running time and there is a lot more heart-stopping action. Even the chariot race in the earlier film is a lot more fun. In the later version, there is one gruesome scene on the ship with some soldier getting his limb hacked off, but the former film is far more gruesome in that respect. Where else do we see a tied up guy at the front of a ship about to be bludgeoned into another ship?

That screencap image of the naked body builder seems to have been popular in many 1970s-80s publications due to possible gay "leather" interest. Of course, nobody was seriously thinking along those lines back in the '20s. You noticed a lot of naked men in paintings depicting great suffering and misfortune, so I doubt any censors were that outraged like they would had a woman been shown full frontal. (Then again, we do see some topless-ness in a Technicolor parade sequence.)

I also favor Novarro over Charlton Heston in the lead, who was still capable of a fine performance on occasion. That is, I always liked him in Planet of the Apes. In Ben-Hur '59, he is good in his suffering moments such as the gallows scenes but is way too stuffy and overly in love with himself throughout the rest of the film. One tidbit I always find amusing is that the actors who over emphasize their "heterosexuality" are often lousy at wooing women on screen. There is zero chemistry between Heston and Haya Harareet's Esther, since the only connection they share is their love of Christ in the final act. I suspect that Jack Hawkins was more Heston's favored "daddy" type over sweaty let's-bro-in-the-sauna Stephen Boyd.

Ramon was closeted so every role had to include a female co-star and he was just as good at it as Richard Chamberlain, Rock Hudson and Monty Clift. I do find him more convincing in his wooing of Dorothy Janis in The Pagan than he is with May McAvoy in Ben-Hur, but that may be due to a stronger comfort level with Janis, much like Clift with Liz Taylor and Hudson with Doris Day. OK... if we want to get really, really technical here... I think Janis and Taylor were "hot" for Novarro and Clift respectively and wouldn't have minded having his "love child" while Day viewed Hudson as her favorite brother who made her laugh.

I agree with you is that the 1925 version plays faster- but I find the chariot race in the 59 version one of the most exciting action scenes in cinema- but I do wonder how they had the horses run over the camera in the 1925 version.  Hur 59 just sputters on after Masala's death and you are right there is zero chemistry between Haya (what ever happened to her?) Harareet and Heston.  Chuck had more sexual sparks with Hawkins specially in his tantalizing visit to his cabin scene.  But Stephen Boyd is the films secret weapon.  There are some weird things about the 25 Hur- specially the hand of Christ bit- I love how his hand goes back to wood working after he helps Hur.  There was not rating board in the 20's so I imagine that's how they got away wit the gore and the female and male nudity.  Novarro was more convincing as the young Hur than Heston- his transformation from pampered prince to religious warrior is more convincing.

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"The Werewolf" (1956)  there is a lot of homosexual subtext in this well made sci-fi horror film.  Steven Ritch plays the disoriented man who walks out of a bar and is accosted by surly stranger who demand money or perhaps something more.  The encounter is shot like a sex scene we only see their feet as they lie on top of each other- they are interrupted by a old woman who seems shocked by their behavior.  Ritch is a werewolf who runs off into the woods pursued by Don Mgowan the town's hunky sheriff. He has a girlfriend but spends a lot of time brobonding with his deputy.  Ritch was turned into a wolfman by a couple of mad scientist who act like a gay married couple .  Ritch who was a married straight man with a kid now turns into a wolfman when ever he runs into someone carrying a gun.  The gay monsters are destroyed at the end but the sheriff promises his deputy that they will get drunk for a week to recover - I'm sure they will end up in cabin on Brokeback Mountain.

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