FredCDobbs Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I think Donald Bogle has been a great guest all this month. I'd like to see him back again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackBurley Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I'd like to see him year 'round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 I got a lot out of this month so far. Bogle is very interesting to listen to. A lot of what he touches on really hit home to me when I was programming my TCM programming challenge this week in another thread. I have a section I call "Casting Call for Gone with the Wind" in which I selected earlier films of people who later starred in GWTW. I chose some pictures for the supporting characters based on their placement in the credit and if they had a real name. I wanted to try to fit in a film with Everett Brown who played Big Sam but upon looking up titles of his his previous films, I would find the names of his characters in the database as "Black Convict," "Black Doorman," "Darky," and "Big Black Man." Really opens one's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilelmhr Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 He was good, if a bit overly analytical in all his remarks. And I would have preferred if he kept reminding viewers that all these films have to be viewed in the context of their time. Of course, by today's standards, they're all politically incorrect--for the simple reason that times change. But for the most part, he was very interesting to listen to. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilelmhr Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I'm surprised that in view of all his command of facts, he did get one thing wrong. It was not a man who told Olivia that her time would come and that Hattie McDaniel's win was very significant. It was Irene Selznick who comforted Olivia when she broke down in tears and retreated to the kitchen area for a private weeping session. Olivia herself tells the story of how Irene Selznick noted her disappointment and immediately followed her to the area when she knew Olivia needed some reassurance that it was not the end of the world. Olivia was only 22 at the time and later realized how important Hattie's win was. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najee Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I agree. I wish he had his own forum in which he would discuss and show black films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeem Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Well, everybody makes mistakes, even the great Robert Osborne. On Thursday night, he and Donald Bogle were talking about the 1967 movie "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner." To my amazement, Osborne said that Katharine Hepburn won her third Academy Award for her performance in that film. Actually, it was only Miss Hepburn's second Oscar. She won her third award the next year for "The Lion in Winter." Movie buffs will remember that she and Barbra Streisand tied for the 1968 Best Actress award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilelmhr Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Robert Osborne made another mistake the other day. He said that Teresa Wright was the only actress to be nominated for her first three films. Wrong. Jennifer Jones even beat her by having four nominations in a row after winning for "The Song of Bernadette". She followed each year with other nominations for "Since You Went Away", "Love Letters" and "Duel in the Sun". Since's he's usually so meticulous with his attention to detail, I was very surprised to catch him in this error--but, hey, he's human and he does a great job hosting all those wonderful films. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilelmhr Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Correction: I always think of "The Song of Bernadette" as Jennifer's first film role--and that's what I was thinking when he made his remark. But come to think of it, she was in a couple of films at Republic before she was discovered by Selznick, so "Bernadette" can't be counted as her first film...only her first starring role in a major film. I stand corrected--by myself!! Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path40a Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I didn't hear what Robert Osborne said about Teresa Wright, but Jennifer Jones did NOT receive Academy Award nominations for her first four film roles (though Ms. Wright DID for her first three). Jones appeared in two Republic pictures before The Song of Bernadette and Cluny Brown (1946) was released before Duel in the Sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilelmhr Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Hey, path, I corrected myself two minutes before you posted. I should tease you and say "Look before you leap!", but I'm guilty of that kind of stuff myself. (LOL) But technically speaking, Jennifer won four nominations in a row as Jennifer Jones whereas in her two earlier Republic films she used her own real name, Phylis Isley. But Osborne was right, after all. I always tend to think of "The Song of Bernadette" as her first film. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path40a Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Sorry, I was composing my post while you were posting yours. However, JJ still did NOT win four nominations in a row (read my earlier post) since she had a film in between (which Ms. Wright did not). If what you meant to say was that she was nominated in four consecutive years (not films), then she'd be behind Bette Davis (5) and Greer Garson (5) and tied with Elizabeth Taylor (4) - though all of these ladies were Best Actress nominees or winners while JJ had a Supporting Actress nod in there. FYI, for the men, only Marlon Brando had 4 consecutive year nominations. Message was edited by: path40a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsallieharding Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 He was great! Everything that he added to the discussion was on target and yes have him back for more. He is an intellectual so that is why his comments are a little above the ordinary and I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackBurley Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 "I always tend to think of "The Song of Bernadette" as her first film." This is probably because her opening credit in Bernadette read: "And Introducing Jennifer Jones (By Arrangement with David O. Selznick) As Bernadette" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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