LawrenceA Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I am guessing you meant to say The Empire Strikes Back although Raiders was filmed in 1980. I am surprised that film isn't getting any attention yet, probably because it was more about the special effects than the acting. You're right. It serves me right for typing my list up at 1:30 AM. I also left off Shelley Duvall from my Best Actress list, although she was on my written one. I added her to my post, as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlewis Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Oh I know you are one of the brainiest movie buffs here, so I was ONLY kidding with you a little... ha ha! Also I was trying to stir some interest in that movie. Are there any decent performances that we even remember apart from Frank Oz's voice work for Yoda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesStewartFan95 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Oh I know you are one of the brainiest movie buffs here, so I was ONLY kidding with you a little... ha ha! Also I was trying to stir some interest in that movie. Are there any decent performances that we even remember apart from Frank Oz's voice work for Yoda? Billy Dee Williams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimpole Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Actor Robert De Niro, Raging BullJack Nicholson, The ShiningEdward Woodward, Breaker MorantJohn Hurt, The Elephant ManGerard Depardieu, Mon Oncle D'AmeriqueRunner-ups: Tatsuya Nakadai (Kagemusha), Gunter Lamprecht (Berlin Alexanderplatz), Art Garfunkel (Bad Timing: A Sensual Obsession), Kris Kristofferson (Heaven's Gate), Roger Pierre (Mon Oncle D'Amerique), Dan Aykroyd (The Blues Brothers), John Belushi (The Blues Brothers), Paul Le Mat (Melvin and Howard), Robert Atzorn (From the Life of the Marionettes), Donald Sutherland (Ordinary People), Woody Allen (Stardust Memories), Gerard Depardieu (The Last Metro), Bob Hoskins (The Long Good Friday), Jacques Dutronc (Every Man for Himself), Walter Matthau (Hopscotch), Timothy Hutton (Ordinary People), Lee Marvin (The Big Red One), Alan King (Just Tell me What you Want), Eusebio Poncella (Arrebato), Tommy Lee Jones (Coal Miner's Daughter),ActressShelly Duvall, The ShiningGena Rowlands, GloriaSissy Spacek, Coal Miner's DaughterCatherine Deneuve, The Last MetroNicole Garcia, Mon Oncle D'AmeriqueRunner-ups: Hanna Schygulla (Berlin Alexandeplatz), Theresa Russell (Bad Timing: A Sensual Obsession), Ali MacGraw (Just Tell me What you Want), Dyan Cannon (Honeysuckle Rose), Chistine Buchegger (From the Life of the Marionettes), Mary Tyler Moore (Ordinary People), Charlotte Rampling (Stardust Memories), Helen Mirren (The Long Good Friday), Glenda Jackson (Hopscotch), Nathalie Baye (Every Man for Himself)Supporting ActorPhilip Stone, The ShiningJoe Pesci, Raging BullHarrison Ford, The Empire Strikes BackLeslie Nielsen, Airplane!Gottfried John, Berlin AlexanderplatzRunner-ups: Danny Lloyd (The Shining), Scatman Crothers (The Shining), Anthony Hopkins (The Elephant Man), Lloyd Bridges (Airplane!), Harvey Keitel (Bad Timing: A Sensual Obsession), Takashi Shimura (Kagemusha), Bryan Brown (Breaker Morant), Jack Thompson (Breaker Morant), Peter O'Toole (The Stunt Man), Jason Robards (Melvin and Howard), Christopher Walken (Heaven's Gate), Robert Stack (Airplane!), John Hurt (Heaven's Gate), Henry Gibson (The Blues Brothers), Peter Graves (Airplane!), Joe Turkel (The Shining), David Mansfield (Heaven's Gate), Joseph Cotton (Heaven's Gate)Supporting ActressBarbara Sukowa, Berlin AlexanderplatzMary Steenburgen, Melvin and HowardCathy Moriarty, Raging BullAnne Bancroft, The Elephant ManIsabelle Huppert, Every Man for Himself/Heaven's GateRunner-ups: Myrna Loy (Just Tell me What you Want), Wendy Hiller (The Elephant Man), Barbara Bilingsley (Airplane!), Amy Irving (Honeysuckle Rose), Lorna Patterson (Airplane!), Carrie Fisher (The Blues Brothers), Sarah Holcomb (Caddyshack), Beverly D'Angelo (Coal Miner's Daughter)Not seen: Tribute, Resurrection, Private Benjamin, Inside Moves -------Just to remind everyone, my actual best actress of 1980 is Natassja Kinski for Tess, while Peter Firth would be my second choice for best supporting actor. -------Anne Bancroft didn't get a nomination for her two most famous roles, but she has one now! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraSmith Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 ACTOR: 1. Anthony Hopkins - The Elephant Man 2. Gérard Depardieu - The Last Metro 3. Burt Lancaster - Atlantic City 4. John Hurt - The Elephant Man5. Louis de Funès - The Miser 6. Gérard Depardieu - Loulou 7. Jack Nicholson - The Shining 8. Robert De Niro - Raging Bull 9. Michael Caine - Dressed to Kill10. Robert Redford - Brubaker ACTRESS: 1. Catherine Deneuve - The Last Metro 2. Susan Sarandon - Atlantic City 3. Irene Cara - Fame4. Dolly Parton - 9 to 5 5. Goldie Hawn - Private Benjamin 6. Isabelle Huppert - Loulou 7. Shelley Duvall - The Shining 8. Sophie Marceau - La Boum 9. Angie Dickinson - Dressed to Kill 10. Jodie Foster - Foxes SUPPORTING ACTOR1. Maurice Risch - The Last Metro 2. John Gielgud - The Elephant Man 3. Leslie Nielsen - Airplane! 4. Freddie Jones - The Elephant Man 5. Yaphet Kotto - Brubaker 6. Gene Kelly - Xanadu 7. Morgan Freeman - Brubaker 8. Michel Galabru - The Miser SUPPORTING ACTRESS: 1. Nancy Allen - Dressed to Kill2. Andréa Ferréol - The Last Metro 3. Hannah Gordon - The Elephant Man 4. Jane Alexander - Brubaker 5. Cherie Currie - Foxes 6. Charlotte Rampling - Stardust Memories 7. Donatella Damiani - City of Women 8. Kim Novak - The Mirror Crack'd BEST JUVENILE PERFORMANCE: Brooke Shields - The Blue Lagoon BEST EXTRA: David Lynch - The Elephant Man BEST ANIMAL PERFORMANCE: Fiji crested iguana - The Blue Lagoon BEST ORIGINAL SCORE: Pino Donaggio - Dressed to KillBEST NON-ORIGINAL SONG: Think (Aretha Franklin in The Blues Brothers)BEST ORIGINAL SONG: 1. Out Here on My Own (Irene Cara in Fame)2. 9 to 5 (Dolly Parton in 9 to 5) 3. Xanadu (Olivia Newton John in Xanadu) BEST QUOTE: 1. "You should have seen the Atlantic Ocean back then!" (Atlantic City) 2. "Am I a good man or am I a bad man?" (The Elephant Man) 3. "Heeeeeeerrre's Johnny!!!" (The Shining) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 The New York Film Critics Circle Awards for 1980 were … Best Actor Robert De Niro, Raging Bull* Robert Duvall, The Great Santini (79) Peter O’Toole, The Stunt Man Best Actress Sissy Spacek, Coal Miner’s Daughter* Goldie Hawn, Private Benjamin Mary Tyler Moore, Ordinary People Best Supporting Actor Joe Pesci, Raging Bull* Jason Robards, Melvin and Howard Timothy Hutton, Ordinary People Best Supporting Actress Mary Steenburgen, Melvin and Howard* Debra Winger, Urban Cowboy Mary Nell Santacrone, Wise Blood Eva La Gallienne, Resurrection ————————————————————————————————— The Los Angeles Film Critics Association Awards for 1980 were … Best Actor Robert De Niro, Raging Bull* Best Actress Sissy Spacek, Coal Miner’s Daughter* Best Supporting Actor Timothy Hutton, Ordinary People* Best Supporting Actress Mary Steenburgen, Melvin and Howard* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 Here are my choices of the 106 films I've seen from 1980 for… Best Actress of 1980 1. SISSY SPACEK (Loretta Webb Lynn), Coal Miner's Daughter 2. SHELLEY DUVALL (Winifred “Wendy” Torrance), The Shining 3. GINA ROWLANDS (Gloria Swenson), Gloria 4. ELLEN BURSTYN (Edna Mae Harper McCauley), Resurrection 5. MARIE TIFO (Michelle), Les Bons Debarras 6. ISABELLE HUPPERT (Nelly), Loulou 7. CATHY MORIARTY (Vickie LaMotta), Raging Bull 8. DEBRA WINGER (Sissy Davis), Urban Cowboy 9. SUSAN SARANDON (Sally Matthews), Atlantic City 10. NICOLE GARCIA (Janine Garnier), Mon Oncle d’Amerique and ... THERESA RUSSELL (Milena Flaherty Vognic), Bad Timing: A Sensual Obsession VERA ALENTOVA (Katerina Tikhomirova Aznikov/”Katya”), Moscow Does Not Believe In Tears MARIE-CHRISTINE BARRAULT (Isobel), Stardust Memories MARY TYLER MOORE (Beth Jarrett), Ordinary People JODIE FOSTER (Jeanie), Foxes GOLDIE HAWN (Private Judy Ellen Benjamin Goodman), Private Benjamin LILY TOMLIN (Violet Newstead), 9 to 5 CATHERINE DENEUVE (Marion Steiner), The Last Metro 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 Here are my choices of the 106 films I've seen from 1980 for… Best Actor of 1980 1. ROBERT DE NIRO (Jake LaMotta), Raging Bull 2. BOB HOSKINS (Harold Shand), The Long Good Friday 3. JACK NICHOLSON (Jack Torrance), The Shining 4. JOHN HURT (John Merrick), The Elephant Man 5. JACK THOMPSON (Major J.F. Thomas), Breaker Morant 6. JOHN TRAVOLTA (Buford U. "Bud" Davis), Urban Cowboy 7. THOMAS PEACOCKE (Father Athol Murray), The Hounds of Notre Dame 8. BURT LANCASTER (Lou Pasco), Atlantic City 9. TOMMY LEE JONES (Doolittle "Doo" Lynn/”Mooney”), Coal Miner's Daughter 10. EDWARD WOODWARD (Lt. Harry Harbord “Breaker” Morant), Breaker Morant and ... TIMOTHY HUTTON (Conrad Jarrett), Ordinary People OLEG TABAKOV (Ilya Ilyich Oblomov), Oblomov GERARD DEPARDIEU (Loulou), Loulou MICHEL SERRAULT (Albert Mougeotte/”Albin”/”Zaza Napoli”), La Cage Aux Folles II JACK LEMMON (Scottie Templeton), Tribute DONALD SUTHERLAND (Calvin Jarrett), Ordinary People PAUL LE MAT (Melvin E. Dummar), Melvin and Howard TATSUYA NAKADAI (Shingen Takada/“the Thief”/Kagemusha/‘Shadow Warrior’), Kagemusha ALEXEI BATALOV (Gosha), Moscow Does Not Believe In Tears GERARD DEPARDIEU (Rene Ragueneau), Mon Oncle d’Amerique NICK NOLTE (Neal Cassaday/”Dean Moriarity”), Heart Beat MARIUS WEYERS (Andrew Steyn), The Gods Must Be Crazy DAVID CARRADINE (Cole Younger), The Long Riders 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Boston Society of Film Critics began in 1981. Here are their acting choices for 1980: Best Actor Robert De Niro, Raging Bull Best Actress Gena Rowlands, Gloria Best Supporting Actor Jason Robards, Melvin and Howard Best Supporting Actress Mary Steenburgen, Melvin and Howard —————————————————————————————— The National Board of Review Awards for 1980 were… Best Actor Robert De Niro, Raging Bull* Best Actress Sissy Spacek, Coal Miner’s Daughter* Best Supporting Actor Joe Pesci, Raging Bull* Best Supporting Actress Eva Le Gallienne, Resurrection* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 The National Society of Film Critics Awards for 1980 were … Best Actor Peter O’Toole, The Stunt Man* Robert De Niro, Raging Bull Robert Duvall, The Great Santini (79) Best Actress Sissy Spacek, Coal Miner’s Daughter* Mary Tyler Moore, Ordinary People Goldie Hawn, Private Benjamin Best Supporting Actors Joe Pesci, Raging Bull* Timothy Hutton, Ordinary People Jason Robards, Melvin and Howard Best Supporting Actresses Mary Steenburgen, Melvin and Howard* Debra Winger, Urban Cowboy Cathy Moriarty, Raging Bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingrat Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Billy Dee Williams I completely agree. With the right vehicles Billy Dee Williams could have been the African-American Cary Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 The BAFTA winners for 1980 were …. Best Actor John Hurt, The Elephant Man Roy Scheider, All That Jazz (79) Peter Sellers, Being There (79) Dustin Hoffman, Kramer vs. Kramer (79) Best Actress Judy Davis, My Brilliant Career (79) Shirley MacLaine, Being There (79) Meryl Streep, Kramer vs. Kramer (79) Bette Midler, The Rose (79) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 Best Actress of 1980 5. MARIE TIFO (Michelle), Les Bons Debarras Les Bons Debarras (1980) won 8 Canadian Genie Awards. Marie Tifo plays a single mother living in rural Quebec. Her daughter played by Charlotte Laurier is overly possessive and prevents her from having other relationships. This is a film I have suggested to TCM a few times as it was directed by the late Frances Mankiewicz (1944-1993) who according to the imdb was a distant relative of Herman and Joseph Mankiewicz. This then would make him a relative of Ben's too. I wonder if Ben knows that? This is one of the rare French Canadian films that does exist on dvd with English subtitles. But according to one Amazon reviewer the dvd distributor did not contribute to the film's restoration so the digital copy for sale is from an inferior source. Canada really is third world when it comes to its own film heritage. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Despite the fact that I have seen more films over all from this period than any of the previous decades that we have covered, from the mid-70's through the 1980's I have seen less foreign and arthouse films than from the other eras before or after. Most of my choices will be from more mainstream films, heavy on the genre titles (SF, horror, action, etc). Also regardless of the fact that this was the era of home video emergence, these films are harder to locate now than older films. Very few cable stations air unedited, commercial free movies from the 1970's and 1980's, other than the handful of box-office hits. Also the DVD/Blu-Ray market doesn't help, as many of these titles are lost in rights issues limbo, or were early releases that are now a decade or more out of print. When I hear complaints about this era of films being shown on TCM, I find it ironic that these movies are harder to see now than those of the 1940's and 1950's. If the market was better, I would be 110% behind the notion of a TCM2 channel that focused only on post-studio era movies from here and abroad. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilgoreTrout Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Best Actor: Robert De Niro -Raging Bull Best Actress: Ildiko Bansagi -Confidence Best Supporting Actor: Joe Pesci -Raging Bull Best Supporting Actress: Mary Steenburgen -Melvin and Howard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 Here are Danny Peary’s Alternate Oscar choices for 1980. Winners in bold. Best Actor Robert De Niro, Raging Bull* Bob Hoskins, The Long Good Friday Peter O’Toole, The Stunt Man Best Actress Ellen Burstyn, Resurrection* Judy Davis, My Brilliant Career (79) Shelley Duvall, The Shining Jodie Foster, Foxes Goldie Hawn, Private Benjamin Helen Mirren, The Long Good Friday Gena Rowlands, Gloria Sissy Spacek, Coal Miner’s Daughter And here are Michael Gerbert’s Golden Armchair choices for 1980: Best Actor Gerard Depardieu, Loulou* Best Actress Sissy Spacek, Coal Miner’s Daughter* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 The Golden Globe Awards for 1980 were … Best Actor in a Drama Robert De Niro, Raging Bull* John Hurt, The Elephant Man Jack Lemmon, Tribute Peter O’Toole, The Stunt Man Donald Sutherland, Ordinary People Best Actress in a Drama Mary Tyler Moore, Ordinary People* Ellen Burstyn, Resurrection Natassja Kinski, Tess (79) Deborah Raffin, Touched by Love Gena Rowlands, Gloria Best Actor in a Comedy or Musical Ray Sharkey, The Idolmaker* Neil Diamond, The Jazz Singer Tommy Lee Jones, Coal Miner’s Daughter Paul Le Mat, Melvin and Howard Walter Matthau, Hopscotch Best Actresses in a Comedy or Musical Sissy Spacek, Coal Miner’s Daughter* Irene Cara, Fame Goldie Hawn, Private Benjamin Bette Midler, Divine Madness Dolly Parton, Nine to Five Best Supporting Actor Timothy Hutton, Ordinary People* Judd Hirsch, Ordinary People Joe Pesci, Raging Bull Jason Robards, Melvin and howard Scott Wilson, The Ninth Configuration Best Supporting Actress Mary Steenburgen, Melvin and Howard* Luci Arnaz, The Jazz Singer Beverly D’Angelo, Coal Miner’s Daughter Cathy Moriarty, Raging Bull Debra Winger, Urban Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesStewartFan95 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Best Actor John Belushi, The Blues Brothers Robert DeNiro, Raging Bull Robert Hayes, Airplane John Hurt, The Elephant Man Timothy Hutton, Ordinary People Tommy Lee Jones, Coal Miner's Daughter Burt Lancaster, Atlantic City Jack Nicholson, The Shining Jason Robards, Melvin and Howard Gene Wilder Stir Crazy Best Actress Goldie Hawn, Private Benjamin Angela Lansbury, The Mirror Crack'd Mary Tyler Moore, Ordinary People Gena Rowlands, Gloria Susan Sarandon, Atlantic City Sissy Spacek, Coal Miner's Daughter Lily Tomlin, 9 to 5 Best Supporting Actor John Candy, The Blues Brothers Scatman Crothers, The Shining Rodney Dangerfield, Caddyshack Murphy Dunne, The Blues Brothers Levon Helm, Coal Miner's Daughter Ted Knight, Caddyshack Bill Murray, Caddyshack Leslie Nielsen, Airplane Joe Pesci, Raging Bull Billy Dee Williams, Star Wars Episode V Best Supporting Actress Eileen Brennan, Private Benjamin Beverly D'Angelo, Coal Miner's Daughter Ruth Gordon, My Bodyguard Cathy Moriarty, Raging Bull Kate Reid, Atlantic City Mary Steenburgen, Melvin and Howard Elizabeth Wilson, 9 to 5 Best Juvenile Performance John Adames, Gloria Danny Lloyd, The Shining Chris Makepeace, My Bodyguard Best Performance by an Inanimate Object Otto as Otto, Airplane Best Performance by an Athlete Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Airplane Best Performance by a Former Sitcom Mother Barbara Billingsley, Airplane Mary Tyler Moore, Ordinary People 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlewis Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Best Performance by a Former Sitcom Mother Barbara Billingsley, Airplane It's a shame they didn't give her more screen time so that she could qualify for Best Supporting Actress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swithin Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Despite the fact that I have seen more films over all from this period than any of the previous decades that we have covered, from the mid-70's through the 1980's I have seen less foreign and arthouse films than from the other eras before or after. Most of my choices will be from more mainstream films, heavy on the genre titles (SF, horror, action, etc). Funny, I was thinking the opposite, that I've seen more foreign films from places like Germany, Australia, Eastern Europe, and other countries, which were really coming into their own around that time. Many American films of that period were not my cup of tea. In 1980, I had a particular aversion to Melvin and Howard; and I've never been a big fan of movies like Ordinary People, which I felt were decent but would be better on television. Lots of good horror films around that time, though. There was one particular 1980 movie that I liked a lot -- Robert Altman's weird, mysterious Popeye. Shelly Duvall was born to play Olive Oyl. Also loved Fade to Black -- like The Day of the Locust, it needs to be seen on TCM. A sort of horror film about a young man who LOVES movies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I was speaking more of Foreign Language films. I've seen a lot of Australian films from the era, as well as British films, and many, many European genre films, mainly from Italy and Spain, dubbed in English. The films I haven't seen are the more "respectable" award-winning types. The first time I saw Fade to Black, I hated it. I saw it again about 15 years later and enjoyed it more. Dennis Christopher really got to chew into the role. I enjoyed seeing a young Mickey Rourke in a minor role, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 The 1980 Berlin International Film Festival winners were… Best Actor Andrzej Seweryn, The Conductor/Dyrygent Best Actress Renate Krossner, Solo Sunny —————————————————————————————— The 1980 Cannes Film Festival winners were… Best Actor Michel Piccoli, Leap Into the Void Best Actress Anouk Aimee, Leap Into the Void Best Supporting Actor Jack Thompson, Breaker Morant Best Supporting Actresses Caria Gravina, The Terrace/La Terrazza Milena Dravic, Special Therapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 Best Actor of 1980 1. ROBERT DE NIRO (Jake LaMotta), Raging Bull 2. BOB HOSKINS (Harold Shand), The Long Good Friday In any other year, against most competition Bob Hoskins (1942-2014) would probably have walked away with my leading actor choice. Hoskins had been making his mark primarily on the stage and in television prior to 1980. Dennis Potter's Pennies From Heaven mini-series may have been his breakthrough. But The Long Good Friday took Hoskins to a whole new level. His east-end gangster, Harold Shand was both ruthless and charismatic. Harold has a dream of becoming a legitimate real estate tycoon with plans to develop Canary Wharf just when Britain is becoming part of a new Europe. But for that, he will need American money. Things get complicated when a series of bombs begin to destroy his properties and the Americans may back out. Is it his competition or the IRA? Shand is determined to find out. I won't give away the ending, but it is a brilliant piece of acting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlewis Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Despite the fact that I have seen more films over all from this period than any of the previous decades that we have covered, from the mid-70's through the 1980's I have seen less foreign and arthouse films than from the other eras before or after. Most of my choices will be from more mainstream films, heavy on the genre titles (SF, horror, action, etc). Also regardless of the fact that this was the era of home video emergence, these films are harder to locate now than older films. Very few cable stations air unedited, commercial free movies from the 1970's and 1980's, other than the handful of box-office hits. Also the DVD/Blu-Ray market doesn't help, as many of these titles are lost in rights issues limbo, or were early releases that are now a decade or more out of print. When I hear complaints about this era of films being shown on TCM, I find it ironic that these movies are harder to see now than those of the 1940's and 1950's. If the market was better, I would be 110% behind the notion of a TCM2 channel that focused only on post-studio era movies from here and abroad. Something like a Criterion/TCM channel would be nice. You are correct that the market needs to be better. Most Americans purchase TV sets for the sports. Nothing against sports, but only posters on a forum like this are seeking academic and artistic stimulation. We are, after all, the country that put Trump into power. Most Americans don't have much patience with subtitles on screen. They want things simple and straight forward, with lots of shouting involved. The attention span is too short. 1980 definitely was an international barrel of riches: Kontrakt (Poland), Kagemusha (Japan), Le Dernier Metro (France), the animated cartoon feature Le Roi Et L’Oiseau (also France), Loulou (Switzerland/France); Bizalom (Hungary); Neskolko Dnei Iz Zhizn I.I. Oblomova (USSR); Berlin Alexanderplatz (although technically a TV mini-series in Germany)... just to name a few. It is highly unlikely you will see any on American TV. Funny, I was thinking the opposite, that I've seen more foreign films from places like Germany, Australia, Eastern Europe, and other countries, which were really coming into their own around that time. Many American films of that period were not my cup of tea. In 1980, I had a particular aversion to Melvin and Howard; and I've never been a big fan of movies like Ordinary People, which I felt were decent but would be better on television. Lots of good horror films around that time, though. Even though Melvin And Howard has nothing in common with Robert Altman's seventies successes, it is obviously a byproduct. The premise is great, but too many Little Incidents occur on screen that don't push the story forward and it runs too long. I saw it once on VHS in the eighties and kinda-sorta liked it. Just not enough to re-watch it. This sums up most 1980s films for me that I kinda-sorta liked. Ordinary People is basically a Learning Corporation of America production made for ABC's Afternoon Specials with a teen audience in mind. Key difference is that it is rated R for its language and has Mary Tyler Moore as the ultimate b*tchy Mommy. Thanks to her success, we got Shirley MacLaine in Terms Of Endearment later, also by the same studio (Paramount) which was becoming rather predictable at this time with all of their post-John Travolta musicals and post-Airplane! comedies. This was before Eddie Murphy made that company as distinctive in the eighties as it was with Bing Crosby in the thirties and forties. I must admit that Mary "makes" the movie better than it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swithin Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Ordinary People is basically a Learning Corporation of America production made for ABC's Afternoon Specials with a teen audience in mind. Key difference is that it is rated R for its language and has Mary Tyler Moore as the ultimate b*tchy Mommy. Thanks to her success, we got Shirley MacLaine in Terms Of Endearment later, also by the same studio (Paramount) which was becoming rather predictable at this time with all of their post-John Travolta musicals and post-Airplane! comedies. This was before Eddie Murphy made that company as distinctive in the eighties as it was with Bing Crosby in the thirties and forties. I must admit that Mary "makes" the movie better than it is. When I wrote the post to which you responded, I was thinking of Terms of Endearment as another one of those sorts of movies that don't appeal to me. Sort of American Neo-Realism creeping in, which led, in my opinion, to some of the soap-operaish films about "real people" that came later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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