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I think they may be doing that. I've been throughout the boards and in March somebody noticed the Crime Doctor movies are on Saturday same time, one a week. The Boston ****'s, Falcon's Saints are in rows. My cable station only had TCM for a couple years so I missed Bowery Boys but I'll enjoy the others. I told my boss about MGMWBRKO but I said he, then I thought He, she I don't remember the gender mentioned or if it's one or more person, This post has been going on since June I've had some vacations, and that what makes me think they may be a group. It's been posted at least once a week ,sometimes twice and MGM has been to other boards telling people about upcoming movies.and I haven't forgotten MGM came in on his or her day off to let us know about the shorts.This station is the only one who listens. When Penny Singleton died I contacted AMC because that's where I saw Blondie movies, about a month later I got a generic e-mail. but by then I forgot all about it ., TCM is even showing Madeline sorry for the spelling but it's similar to Letty Leton which I suppose they can't show. I never saw either one.

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> I think they may be doing that. I've been throughout

> the boards and in March somebody noticed the Crime

> Doctor movies are on Saturday same time, one a week.

> The Boston ****'s, Falcon's Saints are in rows. My

> cable station only had TCM for a couple years so I

> missed Bowery Boys but I'll enjoy the others. I told

> my boss about MGMWBRKO but I said he, then I thought

> He, she I don't remember the gender mentioned or if

> it's one or more person, This post has been going on

> since June I've had some vacations, and that what

> makes me think they may be a group. It's been posted

> at least once a week ,sometimes twice and MGM has

> been to other boards telling people about upcoming

> movies.and I haven't forgotten MGM came in on his or

> her day off to let us know about the shorts.This

> station is the only one who listens. When Penny

> Singleton died I contacted AMC because that's where I

> saw Blondie movies, about a month later I got a

> generic e-mail. but by then I forgot all about it .,

> TCM is even showing Madeline sorry for the spelling

> but it's similar to Letty Leton which I suppose they

> can't show. I never saw either one.

 

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The nicest New Year's present a Hal Roach film fan could have received was the airing in chronological order of the rarely seen Hal Roach / Sawyer Tracy Comedies. Six streamliner films loosely designed to create yet another potential comic duo, this time in the guise of the Army recruits. On top of that was the first airing in decades of the Roach Zazu Pitts 4 reeler, Miss Polly, the supposed first in a series of films that didn't go too far. Nonetheless, to have this treat was special indeed.

 

I recommend all Hal Roach fans to catch these films the next time they air if you missed them. The Army comedies are fine enough (there were six made) and they are short AND they are Roach product made at a time when he lost Laurel & Hardy to Fox and MGM. It's a chance to see Hal Roach's last successful (of sorts) series of films made past the end of his tenure as the best comedy producer of films.

 

Happy New Year to all!

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I enjoyed Doubleday. Apparently alot of people did because they started requesting them.I never heard of Doubleday before so I missed 4 of them ,actually they showed Miss Polly in June, I recorded Niagra Falls, which I never saw before, they had Miss Polly before Niagra,Hopefully TCM will show them again,usaually in April it's comedies

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> I missed the Leo Beers short, but saw THE NICKEL

> NURSER this morning! A funny short, I loved Billy

> Gilbert's psychotic butler going on a shooting

> rampage. Thelma Todd looked beautiful and was

> beautifully photographed, Charley and Thelma both did

> classic double "takes". I think I love hearing LeRoy

> Shield's music the best, his tunes are always with

> me. Thank you, MGMWBRKO and TCM! Play some Joe Penner

> shorts!

 

Wasn't the Nickel Nurser good??? Thelma was as pretty as I have ever seen her look, and the women who was the maid/the 3rd sister, yowza! She went by 2 names. Belle Hare in this short(Greta-who it sounded like she was doing an impression of) but little info on IMDB under that name. So, I googled that name, and brought up the name of Estelle Etterre as well. She did more work under this name. But, almost every role was an uncredited one! If she really was born in California, she did a great Swedish accent, and was easy on the eyes as well. Shoulda gone somewheres.

Liked how Charlie Chase was called Charlie Chase in this film(Did they do that alot in his shorts?) Thelma was called....Thelma! And her family was also called the Todd family!

 

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Please allow me to wish everyone a wonderful Happy New Year and especially to you MGMWBRKO for being so great to us :-)

 

I do have a question for you, MGMWBRKO

 

If you read this, in the deal that you have with Hallmark Entertainment and that you have basically presented a good majority of the Roach library, does this also include the Hal Roach/Harry Langdon sound comedies he made between 1929 to 1930, in this acquisition?

 

But in all, 2006 has been great for Hal Roach and fans of this great American comedy studio and hope that 2007 will be even a better year for Hal Roach fans.

 

P.S.

Please show some Taxi Boys shorts this month, since we've haven't seen the boys since October.

 

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Runtime Listing: 50 mins.

Color/BW: Black and White (16 mm prints for television) (1954), Color (Cinecolor) (original 35 mm prints)

Sound: Mono That's the info for Trouble. TCM must have used the 16mm print.I don't know much about these things but I looked it up in their database.

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1/5 - 1/10, All times Eastern, approximate and subject to change:

 

1/5, 3:04am EST - And She Learned About Dames

1/5, 2:41pm EST - A Balmy Swami

1/5, 7:46pm EST - On Location With "Fame"

1/5, 11:50pm EST - Haredevil Hare

1/6, 7:49am EST - Color Scales

1/7, 9:35am EST - Luncheon at Twelve

1/7, 11:45pm EST - His First Tooth

1/8, 1:42am EST - Flicker Memories

1/8, 7:18am EST - Shoes of the Fisherman (Featurette)

1/8, 12:58pm EST - David Lean's "Dr. Zhivago" (Featurette)

1/8, 4:48pm EST - The Making of 2010 (Featurette)

1/8, 10:35pm EST - Tops With Pops

1/9, 9:19pm EST - 23 Skidoo

1/10, 12:48am EST - Victory Quiz

1/10, 3:50am EST - America Prefered

1/10, 5:44am EST - Where Eagles Dare (Featurette)

 

Happy New Year!

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There are two additional William Tracy Joe Sawyer films that were made by Roach Jr. in the early fifties. These were released through Lippert Pictures. The thought was to put the boys back in the service during the Korean War. The two films are As You Were and Mr. Walkie Talkie.

 

AND to see the great Charley Chase short, Luncheon at Twelve (his holiday release for December 1933) which airs on January 7th. at 6:35 AM West Coast Time, you should try to see the Chase directed Three Stooges short, Tassels In The Air (1938). The classic painting sequence in which the Stooges get more paint on eachother than on the furniture is a direct reworking of Luncheon At Twelve's painting sequence with Chase, Billy Gilbert and James Barty. It's a treat to see Charley do it at Roach and then three years later to direct it at Columbia with three other comedians in the roles. The Stooges are great but Billy's german accent is hysterical! "Vood Choo Pleeaasse Vaatch veeire yor painting!" It's one of the best Chase talkie shorts.

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1/5 3:04am/12:04a - And She Learned About Dames 1934-9m-MOD (Dames)

1/5 2:41pm/11:41a - A Balmy Swami 1949-7m-A (Popeye)

1/5 7:46pm/4:46p - On Location With "Fame" 1980-12m-MOD

1/5 11:50pm/8:50p - Haredevil Hare 1948-7m-LT (Bugs Bunny)

 

1/6 7:49am/4:49a - Color Scales 1932-8m-PSS

 

1/7 9:35am/6:35a - Luncheon at Twelve 1933-21m-CC

1/7 11:45pm/8:45p - His First Tooth 1916-14m-silent

 

1/8 1:42am/10:42p - Flicker Memories 1941-8m-PSS

 

1/8 7:18am/4:18a - Shoes of the Fisherman (Featurette) 1968-?m-MOD

1/8 12:58pm/9:58a - David Lean's "Dr. Zhivago" (Featurette) 1965-8m-MOD

1/8 4:48pm/1:48p - The Making of 2010 (Featurette) 1984-?m-MOD

1/8 10:35pm/7:35p - Tops With Pops 1957-7m-TJ

 

1/9 9:19pm/6:19p - 23 Skidoo 1930-10m-comedy

 

1/10 12:48am/9:48p - Victory Quiz 1942-9m-PSS

 

1/10 3:50am/12:50a - America Prefered 1941-7m-pre-WWII doc

1/10 5:44am/2:44a - Where Eagles Dare (Featurette) 1969-?m-MOD

 

acronym key:

A=Animated

CC=Charley Chase

CDNP=Crime Does Not Pay

doc=Documentary

DV=Dogville

EK=Edgar Kennedy

HM=Historical Mystery

JM=Joe McDoakes

JNPP=John Nesbitt's Passing Parade

LE=Leon Errol

LH=Laurel & Hardy

LT=Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies

M=Musical

MC=Musical Comedy

MOD=Making Of Documentary

PSS=Pete Smith Specialty

RB=Robert Benchley

RKOS=RKO Screenliner

TJ=Tom & Jerry

TK=Todd & Kelly

TT=Traveltalks

 

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Is it possible that Estelle Etterre and Belle Hare, who have different IMDB listings, were actually the same person? Birth and death dates are given for EE but not BH, and their credits overlap in one Our Gang comedy from 1933 (Forgotten Babies), although what part BH played in that film is not provided.

 

It looks as though possibly Belle Hare changed her name to Estelle Etterre around the time Forgotten Babies was made, and since her parts were generally quite small and often uncredited, the IMDB mistakenly has them listed as different people. These were often extra parts and as the actress playing Greta in Nickel Nurser has a thick foreign accent, it's not hard to see why there weren't a lot of speaking parts.

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From the Forgotten Babies listing of The Lucky Corner, the most extensive cast listing you will find, about Our Gang:

 

Estelle Ettere as "Miss Ettere," and as the voice of "Mary Dangerfield"

Small part. Listed in the 1977 edition as Belle Hare. As "Miss Ettere," she's the telephone operator who traces the call. She's also "Mary Dangerfield," the character in the radio program who's being murdered.

 

http://theluckycorner.com/rmt/121.html

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> Is it possible that Estelle Etterre and Belle Hare,

> who have different IMDB listings, were actually the

> same person? Birth and death dates are given for EE

> but not BH, and their credits overlap in one Our Gang

> comedy from 1933 (Forgotten Babies), although what

> part BH played in that film is not provided.

>

> It looks as though possibly Belle Hare changed her

> name to Estelle Etterre around the time Forgotten

> Babies was made, and since her parts were generally

> quite small and often uncredited, the IMDB mistakenly

> has them listed as different people. These were

> often extra parts and as the actress playing Greta in

> Nickel Nurser has a thick foreign accent, it's not

> hard to see why there weren't a lot of speaking parts.

 

 

I think Belle Hare/Estelle Etterre are one in the same. The accent seemed so good you'd think she was born overseas, but appearently she was born in America. Came across this site when I first posted, but forgot to put the link in. I don't think the small photos do her justice...

 

http://www.classicvideostreams.com/BCVS/favs/Etterre-E_idx.htm

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From that link cited below, I was able to deduce that Estelle Etterre/Belle Hare's real name was Eleanor J. Frederick, and she later took on the last name Clough through marriage. At the time of her death (at age 95) she was divorced.

 

Death was listed as due to heart failure caused in part by coronary artery disease, but contributing factors included a stroke, malnutrition, and dementia. It's possible she suffered from Alzheimer's.

 

Based on this it looks like the IMDB entry could be updated with additional information, and the listing for Belle Hare should be folded into that of Estelle Etterre (if anyone knows how to do this).

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I thought Luncheon At Twelve was a pretty good Charley Chase vehicle, despite the lack of much in the way of a plot. CC and Betty Mack clinch and the film ends abruptly along with the song.

 

CC appeared on the verge of going blackface with white paint on his lips, and actually said "Mammy" at one point in a nod to Jolson. I kept waiting for the guy with the coal ashes to dump a bucket on CC's head, which would have completed the effect.

 

Fortunately, this did not happen, as it would have made the film racially offensive.

 

The song he sang ("Desdemona") seemed ok but not on a par with some of his other work like the Swinging Alphabet. Apparently Desdemona is a fictional character in Shakespeare's Othello, and the name has come to signify a siren and love icon, according to the Wikipedia. I assume this song was a Chase original.

 

Chase's films are generally intriguing in how his comedy lies at the intersection of a lot of other artists of his time- Laurel and Hardy being an obvious corollary at the Roach studio. But in this film, you can also see why he was such a natural fit with the Three Stooges later on.

 

Some of Chase's films also bear comparison to the contemporary W. C. Fields domestic comedies like It's a Gift or The Man On the Flying Trapeze. In addition, there are times when Chase's wisecracking voice even seems slightly reminiscent of Grouch Marx.

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It looks like they are starting with "The Crime Doctor" on March 17 at 9am and presenting the first three Crime Doctor movies in order every Saturday at the same time. We can hope they continue the series to its conclusion and then start another series after it.

 

Thank you for pointing that one out.

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The information that's been deduced and the resources could be sent to the folks at imdb and from what I hear they are pretty good at correcting any errors or adding additional information that's been left out.

 

You guys are good at this "detective" work! I'm betting they'd be thankful for the assistance in making their database more accurate.

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> CC appeared on the verge of going blackface with

> white paint on his lips, and actually said "Mammy" at

> one point in a nod to Jolson. I kept waiting for the

> guy with the coal ashes to dump a bucket on CC's

> head, which would have completed the effect.

>

> Fortunately, this did not happen, as it would have

> made the film racially offensive.

 

No moreso than Eddie Cantor in blackface, which TCM shows from time to time. He was also singing in what might be described as a put-on black dialect. We have to accept these things in the context of their time.

 

I've been highly impressed by his singing, a bit of a surprise for someone coming from silents. I'm guessing he had a career on stage before going to films. Also fascinated by the fact that he didn't achieve the universal fame of the other comedians of the time. Pehaps because he only made shorts.

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> I've been highly impressed by his singing, a bit of a

> surprise for someone coming from silents. I'm

> guessing he had a career on stage before going to

> films. Also fascinated by the fact that he didn't

> achieve the universal fame of the other comedians of

> the time. Pehaps because he only made shorts.

 

A number of silent comedians had substantial

experience singing before going into movies.

Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle and Oliver Hardy

(who obviously did get to sing a number of times

in sound films) are examples and I'm sure there

are others. I like Chase's singing, but I have to say

I sometimes think sometimes I think there are too

many songs in his shorts...after all, they mostly

only have a 20 minute running time. Not the ones

shown so far on TCM, but some others. I'd rather

see Charley being funny than singing .

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1/10 - 1/16, All times Eastern, approximate and subject to change:

 

1/10, 12:48am EST - Victory Quiz

1/10, 3:50am EST - America Prefered

1/10, 5:44am EST - Where Eagles Dare (Featurette)

1/10, 12:39pm EST - King of the Duplicators

1/10, 4:48pm EST - Touring Northern England

1/11, 12:18am EST - The Ship That Died

1/11, 4:18am EST - Beach of Nazare

1/11, 9:02am EST - An Old Spanish Custom

1/11, 11:34am EST - Old New Mexico

1/11, 4:19pm EST - Wandering Here and There

1/11, 11:18pm EST - Natural Wonders of the West

1/12, 12:51am EST - Gold Diggers of '49

1/12, 6:19am EST - Movies on Sunday

1/12, 7:44pm EST - Mister Gardenia Jones

1/13, 4:46am EST - Magic Alphabet

1/13, 1:42pm EST - Modern Guatemala

1/13, 3:44pm EST - The Sky Divers

1/14, 3:50am EST - Crashing the Movies

1/14, 5:48am EST - The Opry House

1/14, 7:45am EST - Some of the Best - 1949

1/14, 5:48pm EST - The Dirty Dozen (Featurette)

1/14, 11:43pm EST - Every Sunday

1/15, 8:47am EST - An All-Colored Vaudeville Show

1/15, 10:42am EST - Shoeshine Boy

1/15, 3:46pm EST - Redd Fox Becomes a Movie Star

1/15, 7:41pm EST - Around the World, Under the Sea (Featurette)

1/15, 11:51pm EST - New Star: Geraldine Chaplin

1/16, 2:49am EST - In the Valley of the Rhine

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1/10 4:48pm/1:48p - Touring Northern England 1950-10m-TT

 

1/11 12:18am/9:18p - The Ship That Died 1938-10m-JNPP

 

1/11 4:18am/1:18a - Beach of Nazare 1956-8m-RKOS

1/11 9:02am/6:02a - An Old Spanish Custom 1932-10m-doc (bullfighting)

1/11 11:34am/8:34a - Old New Mexico 1940-9m-TT

1/11 4:19pm/1:19p - Wandering Here and There 1944-9m-TT

1/11 7:30pm/4:30p - Service With A Smile 1934-20m-LE

1/11 11:18pm/8:18p - Natural Wonders of the West 1938-9m-TT

 

1/12 12:51am/9:51p - Gold Diggers of '49 1935-8m-LT

 

1/12 6:19am/3:19a - Movies on Sunday 1935-?m-

1/12 7:44pm/4:44p - Mister Gardenia Jones 1942-13m-WWII USO doc (Ronald Reagan)

 

1/13 4:46am/1:46a - Magic Alphabet 1942-11m-JNPP

1/13 1:42pm/10:42a - Modern Guatemala 1945-9m-TT?

1/13 3:44pm/12:44p - The Sky Divers 1969-?m-

 

1/14 3:50am/12:50a - Crashing the Movies 1950-8m-PSS

1/14 5:48am/2:48a - The Opry House 1929-9m-M

1/14 7:45am/4:45a - Some of the Best - 1949-42m-doc (MGM 25th anniv)

1/14 5:48pm/2:48p - The Dirty Dozen (Featurette) 1967-?m-MOD

1/14 11:43pm/8:43p - Every Sunday 1936-11m-M (Judy Garland, Deanna Durbin)

 

1/15 8:47am/5:47a - An All-Colored Vaudeville Show 1935-11m-M

1/15 10:42am/7:42a - Shoeshine Boy 1943-15m-WWII

1/15 3:46pm/12:46p - Redd Fox Becomes a Movie Star 1976-?m-MOD (Norman Is That You?)

1/15 7:41pm/4:41p - Around the World, Under the Sea (Featurette) 1966-?M-MOD

1/15 11:51pm/8:51p - New Star: Geraldine Chaplin 1965-2m-doc

 

1/16 2:49am/11:49p - In the Valley of the Rhine 1953-9m-TT

1/20 5:15am/2:15a - Service With A Smile 1934-20m-LE

1/29 7:30pm/4:30p - Service With A Smile 1934-20m-LE

2/1 5:30am/2:30a - Service With A Smile 1934-20m-LE

 

acronym key:

A=Animated

CC=Charley Chase

CDNP=Crime Does Not Pay

doc=Documentary

DV=Dogville

EK=Edgar Kennedy

HM=Historical Mystery

JM=Joe McDoakes

JNPP=John Nesbitt's Passing Parade

LE=Leon Errol

LH=Laurel & Hardy

LT=Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies

M=Musical

MC=Musical Comedy

MOD=Making Of Documentary

PSS=Pete Smith Specialty

RB=Robert Benchley

RKOS=RKO Screenliner

TJ=Tom & Jerry

TK=Todd & Kelly

TT=Traveltalks

 

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LG:

 

Here's some additional info:

 

King of the Duplicators shows make-up artist William Tuttle at work; 12 minutes.

 

Movies on Sunday is probably the 8-minute appeal by several stars to pass a referendum to allow movies to be shown on Sunday, which I have seen only once previously on TCM.

 

Thanks for the info you supply when a new list is posted.

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