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2 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

I assume there is a type-O here,   but hey,  maybe not.  

",,,so they can make a decent wage and live a normal wife so they don't have to prostitute themselves for money.:. 

Yeah, I meant life. :lol: Live a normal life.

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2 hours ago, TheCid said:

Won't repeat the comments already made, but a lot of these jobs are low education entry level jobs.  Almost all the bus driver and farmers I know are male.  There are a goodly number of school bus drivers who are female, but the split shifts and free time during the day appeals to many of them.  Writers?  Is this mostly romance/cozi writers?  Shamans???

Regardless, Sanders cannot do anything that just about any other Democrat can't do to reduce sexism in jobs.   

What gets me is the timing of the endorsement.     Note that NOW only endorsed Warren days before Super Tuesday.      

My point being that it appears leading US feminist didn't endorse anyone back in the fall and now in the spring it is way-too-little-way-too-late.

 

 

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Ryan Knight

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Good grief. I’ve been going back and forth between

@CNN  and

@MSNBC

and they are STILL attacking

@BernieSanders nonstop. They just can’t help themselves.

The man who is fighting for a living wage, guaranteed healthcare, and a habitable planet is the WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD.

<_<

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Bernie Not Going Anywhere Until He Has Chance to Ask Biden Some Vital Questions—And Get Some Serious Answers—on Key Issues

"We have won the ideological debate, but we are losing the debate over electability," Sanders said Wednesday.

 

...........he wants answers from Biden about a number of issues that the Vermont senator has centered his campaign on and that polls have confirmed are important to Democratic primary voters.

"Joe, what are you going to do for the 500,000 people who go bankrupt in our country because of medically related debt, and what are you going to do for the working people of this country and small business people who are paying, on average, 20% of their income for healthcare?"

Sanders said he plans to ask Biden on Sunday. "Joe, how are you going to respond to the scientists who tell us we have seven or eight years remaining to transform our energy system before irreparable harm takes place [on] this planet because of the ravages of climate change?"

Sanders pointed out that in 20 primary states—all the states with exit poll data available—majorities of voters said in exit polls that they support Medicare for All.  .......................

 

Biden currently has 837 delegates out of 1,991 needed to win, while Sanders has 689. A number of states with large delegate counts have yet to vote, including New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.

Sanders expressed his intention to allow voters to see the two Democratic candidates in a one-on-one debate, before many cast their ballots.  .........

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/11/bernie-not-going-anywhere-until-he-has-chance-ask-biden-some-vital-questions-and-get

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That's right.  Let Bernie put Biden in a corner where he loses the Bernie bros or he loses the moderates, independents and non-Trump Republicans.  So, we have four more years of Trumpism.

As for the polls, they are accurate.  Except when follow-up questions re: people's taxes going up 40% and then the support for MFA, free college, etc. drops off dramatically.

At this point it should be about who is best to defeat Donald Trump - and it ain't Sanders.  Sanders' ego is second only to Trumps and his constant barage of socialist programs the American people do not want is going to hurt the Dems. in Nov.  But he does not care so long as he can broadcast his socialist agenda.

Remember, Sanders is still NOT a Democrat; he is shown in the senate and in Vermont that he is an Independent.

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23 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Ryan Knight

@ProudResister

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5m

Good grief. I’ve been going back and forth between

@CNN  and

@MSNBC

and they are STILL attacking

@BernieSanders nonstop. They just can’t help themselves.

The man who is fighting for a living wage, guaranteed healthcare, and a habitable planet is the WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD.

<_<

I watched a fair amount of CNN and MSNBC last night and no one attacked Sanders. Of course they mentioned

his poor showing in most of the primary states, but that was about it. 

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I don't know if it was on purpose or not, but Sanders telegraphed to Biden what he would ask him about

during the Sunday debate, not that Biden didn't know most of it already, but it seems like a strange thing

for Bernie to do it he really wanted to go all out against Biden.

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7 hours ago, Vautrin said:

I don't know if it was on purpose or not, but Sanders telegraphed to Biden what he would ask him about

during the Sunday debate, not that Biden didn't know most of it already, but it seems like a strange thing

for Bernie to do it he really wanted to go all out against Biden.

Yes.  They are legitimate questions and Biden will need to answer if he is to sweep up the Sanders supporters when Bernie drops out.  I disagree with the poster who said it is about Sanders ego.  Yes, the number one priority is to defeat Donald Trump but what Biden is offering people is uninspiring and sadly lacking in many respects.

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Clever the use of "DemExit",    but I hope this is just knee-jerk sour grapes based on the results of Super Tuesday II.

After Sanders drops out and endorses Biden,   his followers get over their bitterness and get out and vote for Biden in November.

 

  

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15 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

Yes.  They are legitimate questions and Biden will need to answer if he is to sweep up the Sanders supporters when Bernie drops out.  I disagree with the poster who said it is about Sanders ego.  Yes, the number one priority is to defeat Donald Trump but what Biden is offering people is uninspiring and sadly lacking in many respects.

They are questions that Biden should answer, but it's kind of strange to give him a heads up before the debate.

There are some Sanders supporters who will not support Biden no matter what he says and one can't expect

Biden to suddenly parrot Bernie's policies. Biden is an old time pol and is uninspiring but if people really want

to get rid of Donny they will need to vote for him. 

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29 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Clever the use of "DemExit",    but I hope this is just knee-jerk sour grapes based on the results of Super Tuesday II.

After Sanders drops out and endorses Biden,   this followers get over their bitterness and get out and vote for Biden in November.

 

  

You can only hope we don't see a replay of four years ago when Bernie Sanders didn't drop out at all and only endorsed the nominee at convention.

That was ego and nothing else.

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1 minute ago, TalkTalk123 said:

 

I started to watch this and then realized it was another of those long rants by someone with a "podcast" or whatever.  So I stopped it.

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14 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

You can only hope we don't see a replay of four years ago when Bernie Sanders didn't drop out at all and only endorsed the nominee at convention.

That was ego and nothing else.


Four years ago when Clinton controlled the DNC, as Donna Brazil said the DNC was 100% corrupt in it's support for Clinton and  it was lying when they claimed to be neutral.
 

. The DNC and Hillary Screwed Bernie Sanders, Rigged the Primaries for a Hillary Victory

With the game set for Hillary, with her writing the rules in her favor, it was therefore easy to edge out Bernie Sanders.

“Gary, how did they do this without me knowing?” I asked. “I don’t know how Debbie relates to the officers,” Gary said. He described the party as fully under the control of Hillary’s campaign, which seemed to confirm the suspicions of the Bernie camp.

With funds being stolen and reallocated, Bernie never had a chance:

I told Bernie I had found Hillary’s Joint Fundraising Agreement. I explained that the cancer was that she had exerted this control of the party long before she became its nominee. Had I known this, I never would have accepted the interim chair position, but here we were with only weeks before the election.

This goes to her crooked ways. Hillary Clinton doesn’t play fair. She cheats.

“Wait,” I said. “That victory fund was supposed to be for whoever was the nominee, and the state party races. You’re telling me that Hillary has been controlling it since before she got the nomination?”

The Hillary Campaign Stole Money from State Campaigns

All that money gathered for Hillary’s Victory Fund? It was supposed to be given to state DNC affairs.

Right around the time of the convention, the leaked emails revealed Hillary’s campaign was grabbing money from the state parties for its own purposes, leaving the states with very little to support down-ballot races… Yet the states kept less than half of 1 percent of the $82 million they had amassed from the extravagant fund-raisers Hillary’s campaign was holding…

Hillary essentially used the DNC as a money laundering scheme. She ran the DNC as corruptly as she could. Let’s thank our lucky stars she didn’t wind up in the oval office.

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Interesting article by Will Weissert and Steve Peoples for AP.  Basically saying that Sanders' has misinterpreted the data from his 2016 experience.   The anti-Hillary Clinton vote is no longer there and his base is not growing.  Based on primaries so far, he is unable to grow his base beyond the 35% of ultra-liberal, ultra-progressives.

My view.  Will Sanders learn from this and do what is best for America?  Will his base support Biden and do what is best for America?  Time will tell.

https://apnews.com/28100b17edb5d27bc9907d00f0862a11

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Bernie’s Last Chance

Heading into a one-on-one debate with Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders should not go gentle into that good night

".........Whether he wants it to be or not, the coronavirus disaster is a pitch in Bernie’s wheelhouse, highlighting the massive structural obstacles we face precisely because our electoral system is weighted against serious people and in favor of industry-backed nitwits and sellouts.

Our medical bureaucracy is choked with waste and inefficiency and stays that way by mutual consent, with Republicans entirely opposed to health care reform, and Democrats merely opposed to any change that inconveniences insurers and pharmaceutical companies. The Sanders campaign was a promise to break up this conspiracy of inaction...........

people should equally be furious that Democrats spent the last year whining about online insults, Russians, the honor of Hunter Biden, and a host of other non-issues, when they could have been confronting real problems. They engaged in smear-driven diversion campaigns instead of self-auditing, and are anxious now to escape discussions about the Green New Deal and Medicare for All, to get back to defining political virtue as “better than Donald Trump,” tantamount to no standard at all.

Bernie shouldn’t let them. If this “quarantine debate” is to be his last stand, he should make it count......

 

.......If this is the way the 2020 primary race ends, it’s pure black comedy, and for the sake of everything he’s tried to accomplish in the last four years, Sanders has to make sure audiences don’t see him as part of the punch line.

There may not be time left to win. But he can at least stop apologizing for trying,

and restore his movement’s dignity for the sake of the next person who tries to push it up the hill."

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-debate-go-out-swinging-967462/

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5 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

Bernie’s Last Chance

Heading into a one-on-one debate with Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders should not go gentle into that good night

".........Whether he wants it to be or not, the coronavirus disaster is a pitch in Bernie’s wheelhouse, highlighting the massive structural obstacles we face precisely because our electoral system is weighted against serious people and in favor of industry-backed nitwits and sellouts.

Our medical bureaucracy is choked with waste and inefficiency and stays that way by mutual consent, with Republicans entirely opposed to health care reform, and Democrats merely opposed to any change that inconveniences insurers and pharmaceutical companies. The Sanders campaign was a promise to break up this conspiracy of inaction...........

people should equally be furious that Democrats spent the last year whining about online insults, Russians, the honor of Hunter Biden, and a host of other non-issues, when they could have been confronting real problems. They engaged in smear-driven diversion campaigns instead of self-auditing, and are anxious now to escape discussions about the Green New Deal and Medicare for All, to get back to defining political virtue as “better than Donald Trump,” tantamount to no standard at all.

Bernie shouldn’t let them. If this “quarantine debate” is to be his last stand, he should make it count......

 

.......If this is the way the 2020 primary race ends, it’s pure black comedy, and for the sake of everything he’s tried to accomplish in the last four years, Sanders has to make sure audiences don’t see him as part of the punch line.

There may not be time left to win. But he can at least stop apologizing for trying,

and restore his movement’s dignity for the sake of the next person who tries to push it up the hill."

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-debate-go-out-swinging-967462/

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Unless I am mistaken, don't China, India, Italy and European countries with worse coronavirus pandemics than US have the socialized medicine that Bernie is advocating?

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31 minutes ago, TheCid said:

Unless I am mistaken, don't China, India, Italy and European countries with worse coronavirus pandemics than US have the socialized medicine that Bernie is advocating?

 
 

“Italians don’t have to worry that tests won’t be available,

or that they’ll have to pay for those tests ...

They don’t have to fear that if they seek help now they’ll get a bill later

or that medical costs will bankrupt them,” writes

 
Why I’d Rather Be in Italy for the Coronavirus Pandemic -
 
"..........Last night, after President Donald Trump abruptly announced he was blocking travel from Europe to the U.S. — though officials later retracted and clarified much of that statement — people in Europe raced to airports, reportedly paying as much as $20,000 to try to catch flights out. And still I am trying to figure out how to make the opposite trip.

Even as the death toll back home continues to climb and the lockdown gets stricter by the day, I would much rather weather this pandemic in Italy than here. I just can’t shake the terror that the United States, my adopted country, is fundamentally unequipped to handle what lies ahead.........

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/12/italy-coronavirus-united-states-preparedness/

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Ryan Knight

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I’ve always said I’ll support the nominee. That hasn’t changed.

But I reject the idea that we can’t push politicians to earn our vote & adopt progressive policies that the majority of our party supports.

If we keep giving our power away to politicians then nothing will change.

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1 hour ago, TheCid said:

Unless I am mistaken, don't China, India, Italy and European countries with worse coronavirus pandemics than US have the socialized medicine that Bernie is advocating?

 

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